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"More than a place, the Shady Dell was and will forever remain a state of mind." - Shady Del Knight

"More than a place, the Shady Dell was and will forever remain a state of mind." - Shady Del Knight

Friday, June 1, 2012

Clinically Proven: The Epic Odyssey of a Band Called The Soul Clinic, Part 6











Welcome back to Part 6 of
my exclusive interview with The Soul Clinic. This is the
first in depth conversation
with the late 60s York, PA
R&B band and I am delighted
to be presenting it here on Shady Dell Music & Memories.

I'd like to begin today's session as I did Wednesday's, with
a video that reminds us that horns were happening during
the late sixties, the period during which The Clinic formed, recorded and toured. Please listen to this mini tutorial on horn band popularity from Music Mike, followed by a great horn driven recording by one of my favorite late 60s bands, the Twin Cities' own... Crow!

 "Evil Woman Don't Play Your Games With Me" - Crow 
 (December 1969, highest chart position #19) 

Now how about another quick round of show and tell?

Surprise surprise! Look who showed up at the Shady Dell
a few weeks ago to pose in front of the century old 
and recently renovated hangout.

It's the leader of the pack, Larry Smith!

Joining Larry on his pilgrimage to New Dellie was 
his faithful sidekick, Rick "Little D" Dillman (below).

Never too late to become a Dell rat, Ricko!

S.D. KNIGHT: Alright, when we left off last time the date was May 6th, 1968. The Clinic's record "So Sharp" had just been released. Mike Eads, what was the reaction the first time the band members heard the finished recording? Was everybody happy with the way it turned out?


 I think so. We really 
 didn't know any better 
 then. I think we were 
 just happy to have a 
 record and hear it on 
 the radio, plus the live 
 work that came with it. 

S.D. KNIGHT: After the "So Sharp" single hit the street, was there any second guessing among members of the band? Did anybody wish that you had chosen a different song for the A side or suggest that your original composition "No One Loves Me Anymore" might have become a bigger hit had it been released as the plug side?

 MIKE EADS: Not to my knowledge. I think we felt that 
 'a cover song', done well, would get more and quicker 

S.D. KNIGHT: Mike Leash said he remembers Tony Scott nailing the Five Stairsteps' number "You Waited Too Long."
In addition to that and the two sides of your record, which other songs did The Soul Clinic routinely perform at shows?

 MIKE EADS: Geezz...... the old standards. 'Mustang Sally', 
 'My Girl' and others by the Temptations, some early Blood, 
 Sweat & Tears. I remember one about an ugly woman by  
 Joe Tex, I believe. 

 "Skinny Legs and All" - Joe Tex (December 1967, 
 highest chart position #10) 

S.D. KNIGHT: As the spring of 1968 rolled on The Soul Clinic kept busy with gigs and promotional appearances, riding the wave of popularity generated by "So Sharp." Rick Dillman, I believe you have another Tony tale to tell.


 I remember us playing at a 
 senator's re-election cam- 
 paign BBQ in Baltimore to 
 to promote the record. 
 Lyndon Johnson's personal 
 chef cooked the food.  
 Funny story, after we 
 played, Tony went around 
 to the tables in his full 
 Soul Clinic tuxedo 
 carrying a box and 
 collecting half eaten ribs 
 over the shoulders of 
 supporters. The ribs were supposedly for his dog. Tony had 
 no dog. He kept it up till our manager, Steve Kranich, saw 
 him and pulled him aside. One of the many crazy things 
 Tony did. He was always a source of consternation.. lol. 

 LARRY SMITH: The artsy picture below of Bruce and me is 
 believed to have been taken at York College on Saturday, 
 May 11th, 1968, less than a week after the release of 
 "So Sharp." 

 The Soul Clinic played at a York County Youth Council 
 affair and we shared the stage with The Magnificent Men. 

S.D. KNIGHT: Less than three weeks after the release of your single, The Soul Clinic was part of a mega soul show
in Harrisburg. Which acts were there and what do you remember about it?

 RICK DILLMAN: It was the biggest show of our careers. 
 We opened for Wilson Pickett. 

 "Ninety-nine and a Half" - Wilson Pickett (June 1966, 
 highest chart position #53) 


 It was the only other time 
 I recall us being on the same 
 bill with the Magnificent Men. 
 That night with Wilson Pickett 
 and the Mag Men was at the 
 Harrisburg Farm Show Arena 
 on Friday, May 24, 1968 in 
 front of 5000 people, the 
 largest venue we had played. 
 The Mag Men went on after us 
 and told us later that we were so 
 good that night, they didn't want to follow us! 

S.D. KNIGHT: In case there are any Doubting Thomases out there who think Larry is exaggerating, there's someone in the house who will lay those suspicions to rest. Back with us to corroborate Larry's testimony...and then my special guest Mr. Dave Bupp!

 DAVE BUPP:  Shady, I got to tell you. That night 
 The SOUL CLINIC came armed and ready to take names 
 and kick ass. And they did just that. They opened the show 
 with "A LOVE THAT'S REAL" (The Intruders). You could tell 
 right from the beginning of that song that THE CLINIC WAS 
 ON FIRE!!! The Mag Men had to follow them that night. 
 We played with all the big names back then. That night, 
 it was the hardest act to follow I ever encountered in my 
 many years of performing. I’d have to say, they kicked 
 our asses. GOOD FOR THEM!!!!  Seeing how professional 
 the Clinic was that night really made me feel happy for 
 them and proud of them as well. 

 RICK DILLMAN: We burned that night. Closed the show 
 with a rendition of "Old Man River" in four part harmony ala 
 the Temptations. Killed, absolutely killed. Got a standing O. 

S.D. KNIGHT: Dave, I understand there's a peculiar twist to the story. That super soul show in The Burg nearly wound up being a two-way battle of the bands between The Mag Men and The Soul Clinic because, for a while, it looked like the headliner, The Wicked Pickett, wouldn't even take the stage. Tell us what happened.

 DAVE BUPP: As I remember it, the show was not sold out 
 and Wilson Pickett was worried that he wouldn't get paid. 
 The start of Pickett's show was delayed because he 
 refused to go on until he collected his money. The show 
 was further delayed when the audience became agitated 
 and a fight broke out.  Eventually, Farm Show security 
 restored order, Wilson Pickett got paid, and the show 
 went on, although later than scheduled. 

S.D. KNIGHT: Ricky D, that account offered by Dave Bupp might help explain what happened to Larry that night after The Clinic finished playing.

 RICK DILLMAN: I remember seeing the beginning of the 
 Mag Men's show and they sounded great. At some point 
 Larry went up to the mezzanine to get a hot dog and got 
 ambushed and mugged by rowdy teens. He escaped.. 
 running down the ramp with broken glasses and bloody 
 ear. Larry's yellow Baracuta was also bloodied during the 
 scuffle which killed me cuz I loved that jacket. I don't 
 remember us being there at the start of the Pickett show. 
 Right after Larry got jumped I helped him clean his "cuta" 
 and we promptly left the building never knowing about 
 the problem with Pickett or the crowd disturbance. 

 RICK TERLAZZO: I remember seeing Wilson Pickett's band 
 coming on stage just as we were leaving. Pickett's band 
 included The Allman Brothers, Dwayne and Gregg, who 
 were wearing bell bottoms. 

S.D. KNIGHT: Larry, you were a real trouper that night. Bloodied, bruised and with broken glasses, you still managed to play a second gig, didn't you?

 LARRY SMITH: When we left the Farm Show we headed 
 to a high school after-prom party from 12:30- 4:40am. 
 It was odd to play, cause I couldn't see a thing. 
 "The show must go on!" 

S.D. KNIGHT: Looking at your old log book, I notice that
The Clinic also played at Frederick, Maryland High School's
prom around that time.

S.D. KNIGHT: During the month of June the band's schedule was busier than ever, wasn't it?

 LARRY SMITH: We were on the go much of the time. 
 On June 1st we did a record promotion at WMID radio 
 in Atlantic City, New Jersey. 

 MIKE EADS: We also did the Kerby Scott Show 
 out of Baltimore and one other TV show. 

S.D. KNIGHT: Let me add some background, Mike.  Yorkers might remember Kerby Scott aka Kirby Scott as a top 40 DJ on WSBA, The Mighty 9-10, in the early 60s.

A few years later he was hosting a 90 minute televised dance program for teenagers called The Kerby Scott Show every Friday afternoon on WBAL-TV, channel 11 in Baltimore. Does anybody remember the exact date of The Soul Clinic's appearance on Kerby Scott?

 LARRY SMITH: It was a live TV appearance on Kerby Scott 
 and it took place on June 14th, 1968. 

 RICK DILLMAN: We played "So Sharp" through for taping 
 and then lip synched to it on live TV in the studio with 
 dancers all around us. I remember it being very weird 
 because they had the sound down so low that we could 
 actually hear the dancers' feet shuffling. We were in our 
 blue tuxes, I think, and performed it like we did on stage 
 with dance steps. 

 LARRY SMITH: The other TV show that Mike was thinking 
 of was the one we did two days after our appearance on 
 Kerby Scott. It was another live TV broadcast, this time 
 in Philadelphia on the Channel 10 WCAU Telethon. 

S.D. KNIGHT: While we're on the subject of Baltimore and Philadelphia television shows, I want to show you guys a performance video produced at WKBS-TV, Channel 48 in Philly and telecast on one of my favorite music and dance programs, The Hy Lit Show. It's a great instrumental workout by a funky horn band called The Interpretations.

 "Snap Out" - The Interpretations (April 1969, uncharted/ 
 Performance clip broadcast on WKBS The Hy Lit Show

S.D. KNIGHT: Okay, back to the timeline. As spring turned
to summer the hectic pace of the Soul Clinic's promotional appearance schedule continued unabated. What were the highlights of the summer of 1968?

 LARRY SMITH:  We were jammed. We kicked off the 
 summer with gigs four days in a row. On Thursday, 
 June 20th we played at the Starlight Ballroom in 
 Hershey. On Friday the 21st we were at the York 
 YMCA. On Saturday the 22nd we played at the 
 Mad Hatter Club in Allentown and on Sunday the 
 23rd we appeared at Saylors Lake north of Allen- 
 town, an outdoor show sponsored by WAEB Radio. 

 RICK DILLMAN: Just a reminder that The Soul Clinic's 
 appearance at the York YMCA was at that weekly 
 youth dance called "The Gig". 


 Larry Smith and I were 

 in charge of The Gig. 
 In fact, we are the ones 
 who came up with the 
 name "The Gig" for the 
 "Y" dances. We also 
 hired the bands and 
 helped with promoting 
 The Gig. Of course, 
 The Soul Clinic was one 
 of the regular bands to 
 perform there. 

 RICK DILLMAN: As I mentioned before I played at The Gig 
 a few times when I was with The Conchords. 

 I think this show was the only time I played there in 
 The Soul Clinic. It was like a triumphant return to York 
 after playing out in the bigs for so long. 

S.D. KNIGHT: Around that time The Soul Clinic also made an appearance at York's famous department store The Bon-Ton. What do you remember about that experience?

 RICK DILLMAN: We played a short set on the mezzanine 
 between clothing racks. Very strange! Afterward we did a 
 meet and greet and signed autographs. 

 LARRY SMITH: It was a good turnout. We felt waaaay cool 
 having chicks ask for our autographs. They sold the 45s for 
 FIFTY-NINE CENTS!! How the hell did anybody make any 
 money? We sure didn't make squat from record sales! 

I found this
Top 60 survey
issued by WLAN
in Lancaster, PA
for the week of
June 29th, 1968.
It indicates that
"So Sharp" by
The Soul Clinic
entered the
station's chart
that week at #55.

S.D.KNIGHT: Do you remember how high your record went
on radio station surveys in York, Lancaster, Harrisburg, Baltimore, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh or any other market?

 MIKE EADS: I think it did OK. I know in Carlisle, at W100, 
 it got into the local Top 10 ... I think. :) Most singles from 
 an unknown group, especially a cover single from an un- 
 known group, didn't 'ride' that long back then. After all, 
 Dyke and The Blazers had already recorded it, released 
 it, and made a hit out of it first. Our version never became 
 a 'hit', ie, gold/platinum. Just got some good airplay in the 
 Pennsylvania, Maryland, New Jersey area and a bit 
 beyond that. 

S.D. KNIGHT: York's top 40 station WSBA, The Mighty 910, ruled the airwaves until Lancaster's WLAN powered up and offered a Top 60 survey and a more music per hour format. Some say L-A-N was hipper than S-B-A.

In mid July The Soul Clinic was hosted by two of WLAN's most popular DJ's, Chuck Raymond and Jamie Rowley, at 

the 421 Club, a popular showcase for local bands located 
on Lancaster's Strasburg Pike.

The picture above shows the Lancaster band The Couriers performing at the 421 Club. Incidentally, Couriers guitarist Harry Strother, aka Hoagie, went on to play lead guitar for Jay and the Techniques. Does this pic trigger any memories about The Soul Clinic's appearance at the club?

 RICK DILLMAN: No specific memories. We played so many 
 different places that it's hard to remember every single one 
 of them. I remember us going into a club that looked like 
 that and saying "How are we going to fit on this stage"? 
 It might have been the 421. 

 LARRY SMITH: I have the 421 Club in my old log book 
 as July 13th, 1968 gig and we still have the poster but 
 unfortunately I'm drawing a blank same as Rick. 

S.D. KNIGHT: According to the newspaper clipping below, nine days after playing the 421 Club, The Soul Clinic was back in Hershey.

 RICK DILLMAN: Right. Monday, July 22nd was WSBA Day 
 at Hershey Park and we did a big outdoor stage show, 
 once again backing up The Fantastic Johnny C.  

 "Hitch It to the Horse" - Fantastic Johnny C (July 1968, 
 highest chart position #34) 

 RICK DILLMAN: I remember WSBA Day as being one of our 
 best shows. The audience was chanting for us and girls 
 were trying to grab us from the front of the stage. One girl 
 got Clark's 

 LARRY SMITH: We were doing our show, and the horns 
 were doing "steps" with high kicks. Suddenly, CLARK'S 
 SHOE FLYS OFF INTO THE CROWD!! Some babe caught it 

S.D. KNIGHT: I'm confused. I always thought it was the other way around. The girls are supposed to throw their clothing at the band.


 One of my favorite memories of 
 playing in the band was singing 
 "Yesterday," the song by the 
 Beatles. In the later days of 
 the band we branched out 
 from strictly Soul music into 
 some rock. I played trombone 
 and sang background vocals, 
 so I rarely got to be the lead 
 singer. But on this one song, 
 I was it. I sang my heart out, with just the right inflections, 
 and just the right amount of pain. That song was written 
 for me, and the girls went nuts! After all, that’s what it 
 was all about, right? 

S.D. KNIGHT: Did the Soul Clinic have groupies?

 MIKE EADS: Well, there were some 'Groupies' around, but 
 I don't know if it was because we were THE SOUL CLINIC. 
 I think they were there for any they are now. :) 

 LARRY SMITH: There were certainly some groupies and 
 fans at places we played often. But we did a lot of gigs in 
 small towns just once. 

 RICK DILLMAN: Two days after WSBA Day we were back 
 at the Starlight Ballroom. We had played the WIOO Radio 
 Day at Williams Grove Park in the afternoon and drove over 
 to the Starlight that evening and played for 1800 people. 
 It was pouring rain and we came in at the end of the first 
 band's set. We asked if we could use their instruments 
 and they said no. We ended up having audience members 
 carrying our instruments to the stage. I remember the 
 Soulville Allstars kind of pissed because we got the star 
 treatment and they were kind of ushered off the stage. 

 The best laid plans 

 can and do go sideways. 

 Just ask The Clinic about 

 the tour that never happened. 

 Bad trips and gigs of glory... 

 the ups and downs of 

 a band on the run 

 coming up next time. 

 Plus a shake-up in the lineup. 

 Who came?  Who went? 

 Find out Monday in Part 7 

 of Clinically Proven! 

Have a Shady day!


  1. Wow- the story about Larry getting mugged would have made me want to quit- the Soul Clinic was not only talented, they had perseverance.

    I love the names you all dropped here, particularly the Allman Brothers. That must have been something- and Wilson Pickett? Just no words for how awesome that must have been.

    The same question was on my mind- about how many groupies there were. I think back when the cavemen were beating their clubs on rocks for noise, there were probably cavegirl groupies.

    The half eaten rib story made me really laugh- still funny all these years later!

    Thank you, Shady, for putting all this together, and thank you for making another visit back to my blog with the wonderful blogiversary wishes. I added that part in later when I got to thinking about it, and it means the world that you came back with good wishes!

  2. Shelly - I agree that it took guts for Larry to suck it up and play a second show right after getting attacked and pounded. I don't want to give too much away but there's a similar story coming up next week. I think you're right about groupies. Ever since the world began girls have loved rock stars and seem especially attracted to the wild ones. I'll never forget Fred Flintstone dragging Pebbles home from a Bedrock Beastie Boyz show! :) Dear friend, you always go the extra mile for me and I want you to know how much I treasure our friendship. Thank you very much for checking in to The Clinic again today and have a super weekend!

  3. Good choice for Wilson Pickett, Tom. One of my favorites with Steve Cropper's unique guitar chords.
    I wished I had been there at the Farm Show Arena for the Soul Clinic's performance, really upping the ante for the Mag Men. I wouldn't get there until the Chicago II tour, dropping in from State College with my date, Betsy.
    I'm really having to rethink my doings from this point. Most of this is new to me, and I'm remembering listening to an 'underground FM station' occasionally, hearing Led Zepellin do "Your Time Is Gonna Come". I still recall buying soul records, but Zepellin and Steppenwolf, too.
    Good pictures of Larry and Rick D at the Dell. I like the color of Larry's car--same as my old AH Sprite.

    1. Hi, Ron! The times they were a changin' and bands like The Mag Men and The Soul Clinic were at the crossroads, trying to determine which direction would lead them down the path to stardom. Two of the bands you named here were directly involved in the Clinic saga and I'll have details in next week's posts. Thanks for being here, good buddy, and have a safe and happy weekend!

    2. That was my rental car, Ron. Had to go with the convertible..

  4. This just gets better and better! It's great to hear about the backstage goings on, and how it really was. They've certainly seen their share of the early days of other artists - I was very interested that the Allman Brothers were there! What a lot of very cool memories to look back on.

    1. Hi karen! Yep, The Soul Clinic rubbed elbows with some of the top names in the business, some of them just on their way up at the time. I am proud to be leading the guys through a detailed week by week and even day by day timeline of major events in the band's history. It gives us (and them) an overview of their career progress and the names of all the greats they met and played with along the way. Thank you very much for your kind words, dear friend karen, and have a safe and happy weekend!

  5. Rick,
    NICE rental car. I won't brag about my current car, except for the fact it still runs. Was that WSBA Day in 1968 the same one with the McCoys, the Newbeats, the Olympics, etc.? If it was, I was there.

  6. So Mag Men didn't want to follow the Soul Clinic because they were too good. That is just great! I remember going to a concert here in Kelowna of a Country star (can't remember his name) but the guy before him was so good no one wanted him to leave the stage! He became famous too. I wish I had a better memory of who they were!

    Soul Clinic was certainly busy! I love that photo with the blue suits. They look so happy and relaxed. I had to laugh at Tony getting a box and taking some food! I knew someone who thought that all the jams, jellies, peanut butter and honey cups that were left out on the restaurant table were free for the taking. She put ALL of them in her purse!

    I enjoyed the music and dancing, Shady. It all makes me wish I were young again!

    1. Hi, Belle! You're as young as you feel. The challenge is to keep that youthful feeling no matter what the calendar says. I have a mental age of two and I work at it every day! I think it's fairly common for an opening act to please the crowd more than an established act because expectations are lower. If an up and coming band exceeds expectations it electrifies the audience. The name act, with its familiar show and material, might have a hard time following that and maintaining the excitement level. Thank you very much for joining us for Part 6, dear Belle. Please come back for 7, 8 and 9 next week. Until then I wish you a safe and happy weekend!

  7. Enjoyed this one from start to finish good buddy and I am constantly amazed at how much went into each of these episodes.
    I, like Belle, like the way your music makes me feel like I am back there in my late teen years. We need that from time to time and I thank you.

    1. Hey, Odie! Great to see you, my friend! I agree with you and Belle. Music is a tonic that helps keep us young. A healthy dose every day puts pride in your stride. I greatly appreciate your comment, your compliment and your visit, Odie. Have a fun filled weekend with Rocky and Soffie!

  8. I can't believe tip toe through the tulips was higher on the charts than "So Sharp"!
    I can't believe Larry went on stage after a beat down!
    I can't believe S.C. played with Wilson Pickett and the Allman Brothers!
    I can't believe they played at the Bon Ton mezzanine, isn't that where the restaurant was?
    I can't believe a couple of the guys stopped at the Dell for a photo shoot!

    I would have loved to hear Soul Clinic's rendition of "Old man river"!

    btw, I'm having an open house tomorrow (Sun., June 3' 1-4:00) for all serious buyers! LOL! Maybe one of your world wide followers will hop on the red eye and bring an offer!!!!

    1. Hello, Toni D! I can't believe I didn't notice Tiny Tim's ditty before you called attention to it. It just goes to show there was a mixed bag of musical styles reaching the chart during the transitional year 1968.

      * Shorty Long's funky "Here Comes the Judge" was #1.

      * Bubble gum/nursery rhyme pop songs like "Yummy Yummy Yummy" were becoming big hits.

      * New age, psychedelic and sunshine pop influences were reflected in hits like "Reach Out of the Darkness" by Friend & Lover, "Indian Lake" by the Cowsills and "I Love You" by People.

      * British hard rock was coming on strong with entries like Jumpin' Jack Flash."

      * There was room on the chart for instrumentals like "Grazing in the Grass" by Hugh Masakela and "Classical Gas" by Mason Williams.

      * Folk rock, acid rock, Jesus rock - there was something to please every palate in 1968.

      Thank you very much for your visit and excellent comments, dear friend Toni, and good luck with your open house!

  9. An old friend from York Catholic ('68) brought this blog to my attention, and it's been fun reliving memories of some of the people, places, and music that were such an important part of growing up in York in the 1960s. Thanks, and I look forward to the next installments.

    1. Hello, Matt, and welcome to Shady Dell Music & Memories! D-town ('67) here. I'm glad you found out about the blog just in time to follow the adventures of The Soul Clinic and I hope you'll stick around for more music and memories throughout the year. Thank you very much for your comment, Matt, and have a great Sunday!

  10. This is Michael, Clark Miller's "little" brother. I just want to thank Shady and the Soul Clinic for putting together such a memorable series. Clark has been following the blog and was deeply touched, incredulous, in fact, that it was dedicated to him. Clark has not been in touch with the members of the band for 40 years, until Larry recently contacted him, and it has been an absolute joy for Clark (and me too) to reconnect with these old friends. And yes, our dad "Frenchie" Miller did teach at Dallastown, to our endless embarrassment at the time, when we would meet kids from D-town. And my mom, as infuriated as she would get sometimes, also loved to have the band around. I even overheard her once politely tell off an angry neighbor that the band were her personal guests!

    1. Hi, Michael! It's wonderful to hear from you, my friend! I'm thrilled to know that Clark has been following along and enjoying the stories the guys have been sharing about the band Clark helped make great - The Soul Clinic. I went to D-town and never knew that Mr. Miller was related to any of the Clinic guys. It's a small world after all. Please let Clark know that we're all thinking about him and cheering him on to a complete recovery! Thank you very much for reporting in, Mike. There's much more to come in week three of the series which starts tomorrow morning. Take care, good buddy!

  11. Hi Shady, took me a while to get back and get through this one. Imagine...opening for Wilson Pickett! Ha! And he wouldn't go on until he got paid, well, you never know. Mr. Pickett already had enough experience to stay on top of his game-he was a great entertainer. I guess we didn't get the same TV channels in Kansas, I don't recognize the station and program names, but, I do remember you talking about and interviewing Hy Lit. I knew I should have lived around the NY and PA area...more exposure.

    I think it's great the Soul Clinic made it to the Starline Top 60, even at #55! Just to be on a chart and see your name. These guys were really popular in their time, they went farther than most of the local bands in my town. And groupies? Yeah, there were some...but, they wanted to date the band members. Me, I wanted to BE in the band, but there wasn't much desire to feature girl singers during that time.

    I really am impressed with the memorabilia, photos, and posters. It's good they held on to these items. It's funny how later in life, all of a sudden, you need them again. I enjoy looking at them-what a scrapbook! And, it shows just how serious and busy The Soul Clinic was. This was great. I have read parts of #8, because #7 didn't come up. But, will go back, back, and back, if that's ok!

    Thanks Shady...sorry I'm so late. We've had Scooter for the past week, not much time to blog. Have a wonderful weekend.♫


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