A HUB OF R&B,
SOUL MECCA YORK.
THEY HEEDED THE SAME CALL
AS THEIR SOUL MATES,
THE MAGNIFICENT MEN.
INSTRUMENTAL GROOVES OF BOOKER T.
THEY WERE THE GREAT...
It's time to check back in and
check out The Soul Clinic, the R&B band from York, PA. Today I proudly present Part 2 of my exclusive 9-part interview with the men of The Clinic. Before we go any further I'm going to ask the guys to fess up and answer that burning question.
Dell Rat Jerre wants to know.
Dell Rat Greg wants to know.
Dell Rat Shady wants to know.
Did any of you go to the Shady Dell?
I was a "regular" at the Dell going
back to 1964. I was a member of
The Del-Chords and played on the
single, "Everybody's Gotta Lose
Someday" and "Your Mommy Lied
To Your Daddy". I did lots of gigs
at White Oaks with the Del-Chords
and would usually head right to the
Dell afterward. In the Soul Clinic
days, Clark and I would go there
often. I think Rick T and Mike went sometimes too.
S.D. KNIGHT: I now welcome to our discussion Soul Clinic guitar player Mike Eads. Mike, tell it like it was. Were you
or were you not a Dell rat?
I was only at The Dell
twice, to my recol-
lection, and the first
time was when I was
in The Concords. As I
recall I went with Skip
Nevin, Steve Spangler
and I think Terlazzo.
Probably, since he
was running me around
in that old red Comet
station wagon. He'd
pick me up in Carlisle on Friday and take me home Sunday
night. Either him or Skip and Steve in Steve's Corvair con-
vertible. I was only 15 and didn't have my license yet. My
second time at The Dell I specifically remember Larry Smith
with me because I kept bumming Marlboro cigarettes from
him. I was probably with Clark Miller and Terlazzo too,
since us four hung out together the most.
As you might recall, Mike,
when I used to haul you
around in my red 1964
Mercury Comet wagon
it often had a sign on it.
I kept that sign all these
years and here it is!
We had it printed up in the early days of The Concords.
I attached it to the side of the car when we went to gigs.
S.D. KNIGHT: Rick T, while you have the floor I'd like to ask you a couple of questions. How did you first get interested in playing keyboards and how did you become leader of a band called The Concords?
RICK TERLAZZO: When I was twelve years old I went to
my first boy, girl party. You know, the boys on one side of
the room and the girls on the other side of the room. There
was this guy at the party named Charlie Winkler. He was
a few years older than us and played guitar in a country &
western band. He was a picker and really good. He sat
down at a piano and started playing "TWIST AND SHOUT".
I looked over his shoulder and I knew the chords and bass
line he was playing. Well, that was all it took. The next day
I sat down at our piano and played "TWIST AND SHOUT"
right away, and before long I was playing "Louie Louie,"
"Money," "Green Onions" and many other tunes.
"Green Onions" - Booker T & the M.G.'s (October 1962,
highest chart position #3)
RICK TERLAZZO: We lived in Stony Brook in East York.
There were other kids in our neighborhood that played
acoustic guitars and one played drums. I got them together
in my parents' living room to jam. One of the guitarists
played the low stings like a bass guitar. Out of those kids
the only one who went on with me to start the group was
the one who played bass, Don Hoke.
S.D. KNIGHT: The earliest version of your band was not called The Concords. What was its name and why did you choose it?
RICK TERLAZZO: After looking in a Dictionary of Music
Terms, (I didn't want the word chord in the name of my
group because of other groups in Central PA), I found
the word "inversion". Inversions are the same chord
played in different positions on any chord instrument.
Neat, has to do with chords without using the word
chord for the group name. So I called our group
"The Inversions". However I started having trouble
with parents who thought the name Inversions sounded
perverted. They associated it with "PERVERSIONS."
S.D. KNIGHT: Are your serious? Gee, if those parents had a problem with a name like The Inversions, I wonder what they thought when Twisted Sister came along! Okay, Rick, who else did you bring into the band?
RICK TERLAZZO: From there I added three vocalists,
another guitarist (Mike Eads), a drummer, (Tom Dillman)
and later a sax player, (Steve Spangler), and then a really
young trumpet player, (Rick Dillman). The process took
a year or two until the band became "The Concords."
We got booked and played all over Central Pennsylvania.
S.D. KNIGHT: How did you come up with The Concords as the new name for the band?
RICK TERLAZZO: I changed the name to "The Concords"
when we played at "The Concord Ballroom" in Philadelphia.
I liked that name so I changed the name of the group to
"The Concords" (no "H"). It also got parents off my back.
S.D. KNIGHT: Oh, I dunno, Rick... I don't feel comfortable
with that name either. Concord reminds me of grapes.
Grapes make wine. Teenagers drink wine and before long... HANKY PANKY! See what I'm sayin'? :-)
RICK TERLAZZO: By the fall of 1965 I had a 9 piece group
and we continued to play across Central PA until the fall
of 1966 when I left my group to join "The Epics" with my
York Catholic High buddy, Larry Smith. Other members
of the Concords soon made the switch to The Epics and
shortly thereafter The Soul Clinic was formed.
S.D. KNIGHT: Rick T, with your help we've been able to determine that you made your exodus from The Concords and joined Larry's Epics around October of '66.
S.D. KNIGHT: Shortly after you joined, the band's name was changed to The Epics Soul Clinic and you helped Larry recruit other musical talent from The Concords.
S.D. KNIGHT: Which of your former Concords band mates was the first to follow you over to Larry's ESC group?
RICK TERLAZZO: First came Clark Miller on valve trombone
and vocals. Next in was Mike Eads on guitar. Mike lived
in Carlisle. A year later Rick Dillman joined on trumpet.
So the remaining members of The Epics and the musicians
drawn from The Concords resulted in the new band called
The Soul Clinic.
S.D. KNIGHT: Thank you very much, Rick T. All right, guys,
you probably think I forgot my original question but I didn't. Let's shine the interrogation spotlight directly into the eyes of the other Rick, Rick Dillman, who is suddenly sliding down in his chair. You can't hide, Little D. Tell the truth, my friend. Is you... or is you ain't a Dell rat?
I never went to the Dell.
By the time I was of age
I was gone every weekend
and several weeknights
with the bands. From the
age of 12 to 19 I traveled
with the Conchords, the
Clinic, and later with my
band Trained Labor. If it
softens the blow at all I
can tell you that I was a
Purcells and Baracuta
wearer. I got my jackets
second hand from my brother. I liked the long ones but he
mostly got the short ones. Penny Loafers and Desert Boots
were de rigueur.
S.D. KNIGHT: You just described the essentials of every Dell rat's wardrobe, Rick. Too bad you didn't get a chance to join the Rat Patrol.
We all know that the Dell was a juke joint and didn't offer live entertainment, at least not when I attended. For the record let's find out exactly where the Soul Clinic played and where they didn't. The very first venue that comes to my mind is White Oaks Park. "The Oaks" was still hosting dances with live bands when the Soul Clinic formed, recorded and toured. Did the Soul Clinic ever play at the Oaks?
LARRY SMITH: I do not recall The Soul Clinic ever playing
at the Oaks.
S.D. KNIGHT: Did the Clinic ever perform at the Raven, the soul club in Harrisburg?
MIKE EADS: I remember the Clinic playing the Raven and
opening for the O'Jays.
"Stand In for Love" - The O'Jay's (October 1966,
highest chart position #95 Hot 100/#12 R&B)
LARRY SMITH: We played the Raven along with the O'Jays
on Saturday, March 11, 1967. A couple of months later, on
May 13th, we again opened for and backed up the O'Jays,
this time at the Sunny Club in Camp Hill.
"Friday Night" - The O'Jays (October 1966,
uncharted B side of "Stand In for Love")
RICK DILLMAN: I wasn't in the Soul Clinic lineup at the
time. I didn't join the band until November. My brother
Tom called Steve Kranich, the band's personal manager,
to see if I could join. He took me to a practice for an
audition and the current trumpet player, Ed Furst, was
still there..very embarassing.
--------------------- Ed Furst
RICK DILLMAN: I spent several weeks going to Soul Clinic
shows hiding in the crowd, taking notes on Ed's fingerings
to specific songs in a note pad so that when I joined I'd
be able to do it seamlessly.
LARRY SMITH: Ed Furst was an important part of
The Soul Clinic's evolution. Ed was in the original Epics
from 1962 through the Epics Soul Clinic period and
then The Soul Clinic through October 1967. He was
very "straight-laced" compared to the rest of us. At
times it was a bit uncomfortable but we all kept our
sense of humor. Ed always did his job and was
dependable. It was very similar with Barry Shultz.
They were BOTH gentleman and very sweet guys!
S.D. KNIGHT: At this time I would like to welcome Ed Furst to the proceedings. Ed, thanks for being here with us!
ED FURST: My pleasure.
S.D. KNIGHT: I'd like to ask you the same question that
I asked Barry Shultz and Rick Terlazzo. How did you get started playing music in a band?
ED FURST: I started
playing trumpet at age
13 along with singer
Ed Myers and key-
board player Steve
Barry Shultz and Dick
us about starting a
band to play "record
hops", dance clubs
S.D. KNIGHT: Who was Dick Gayman and what was his relationship to the band?
LARRY SMITH: Dick Gayman, or "Butch" as we called him,
was personal manager and booked gigs for the Epics.
In those days, a manager generally did at least a few of
the following things:
* Provide a place to rehearse
* Provide beer
* Provide transportation for members. Haul equipment
via trailer, truck, station wagon, etc.
* Book gigs/ make business contacts.
Butch also put a professional sign on his station wagon
to help promote the band.
When Rick Terlazzo joined the band he took over as
personal manager. Soon after, he invited Steve Kranich
into the fold to serve in that capacity.
S.D. KNIGHT: Thanks, Larry! Getting back to you, Ed, what did you enjoy most about playing with the band as it evolved from The Epics to The Soul Clinic?
ED FURST: I enjoyed
keeping up with the
current music scene,
using my talents on
trumpet and vocals
to entertain the
audiences, my friends
and my band mates.
And the camaraderie
we all had was
S.D. KNIGHT: Do you have a favorite story from your years with the band?
ED FURST: I remember driving Tony Scott's station wagon
from Philly with everyone sleeping. Snoring and noxious
body odors were soon filling the vehicle. I had to roll down
the windows in 0 degree weather to purge the air and wake
up the occupants.
S.D. KNIGHT: That reminds me of the time I was working with a concert promoter at a Jay and The Americans show. Afterward I had to drive "The Americans," Jay Black's band, back to their hotel. Only it wasn't body odors that filled my van. Turns out I was haulin' Jack Daniels & the Doobie Bros. It got pretty wild. The whole trip I was praying we wouldn't get pulled over.
RICK TERLAZZO: I remember that my first gig with the
Epics it was cold out. Barry Shultz and someone else,
probably Dick Gayman, were in the car. I was not
driving, but we were drinking out of quart bottles of
beer. Why do I remember so well? Because that was
the only time I drank to play. It slowed my playing and
reflexes down. I did not enjoy it and that was the last
time ever that I drank to play.
S.D. KNIGHT: Rick T, a few minutes ago Rick D and Larry both mentioned Steve Kranich, the personal manager of the Soul Clinic. Can you tell us how Steve entered the picture?
RICK TERLAZZO: I met Steve Kranich at Wisehaven Swim
Club on E. Prospect Road in York where we both hung out.
We became friends. Steve was one of many Suburban H.S.
fans of The Concords and the new band The Soul Clinic.
Larry and I were co-leaders handling the business end of
the band. I suggested that we engage Steve as a manager.
I didn't want to be leader again as I was in The Concords
so Larry was elected leader of The Soul Clinic once Steve
became our personal/road manager.
S.D. KNIGHT: With that I'd like to welcome Steve Kranich to our happy reunion. Steve, what duties did you perform as personal manager of this dynamic R&B band, The Soul Clinic?
My years of involvement with
The Soul Clinic were incredible
ones filled with many memories.
I was 16 years old when I
began managing the band.
I was supposed to be the adult
in the room at age 16. Some of
the responsibilities I remember
having included: getting the
band to practice regularly and
productively; getting to gigs
safely and on time (usually in
my Gold GTO pulling a U-Haul); getting certain members to
remember to return to the stage after intermission at gigs;
keeping the peace among a diverse group of artistic, free-
spirited musicians who were also my friends (whether they
were disputing music or which outfits to purchase at Krass
Brothers in Philadelphia, clothier to the stars );
STEVE KRANICH: My responsibilities also included keeping
the hippies and brothers safe when on the road in redneck
communities; making sure everyone got paid after playing
(that was never a hassle); and on and on and on! What a
great couple of years which no doubt helped to form who
I am 40 plus years later. Peace to all of you!
S.D. KNIGHT: Thank you very much for joining us, Steve! Moving on, our good buddy Dell Rat Ron Shearer sent in a question for you guys. Ron says he thinks he remembers
The Soul Clinic as the house band at Altland's Soul Ranch.
True or false?
LARRY SMITH: We were considered the house band in the
beginning and played Altland's Soul Ranch 10 times from
June of 1967 through May of '68. The owners were good
friends of ours as they also owned the DISC-O-RAMA in
downtown York (on N. George St.) where we bought all
On July 10th, 1967 The Soul Clinic played at the Soul Ranch
along with The Fantastic Four.
"You Gave Me Something (And Everything's Alright)"
- The Fantastic Four (June 1967, highest chart position
#55 Hot 100/#12 R&B)
RICK DILLMAN: Another venue worth remembering is the
York YMCA and a weekly function there called The Gig.
It was a teen dance run by the Y to give kids somewhere
to go. I played there with the Conchords and later with the
Soul Clinic. After I joined The Clinic it was kind of winding
down. We got too expensive to play there and other clubs
opened around the area.
I believe this November 11th, 1967 Gig gig took place
just before I joined The Soul Clinic. I have a memory of
being there and seeing them on stage and thinking damn,
this band is a powerhouse compared to The Conchords.
If we were the Beatles, then they were The Stones.
Raw power and animal lust..lol
played with a famed jazz band?
Which one was wowed by Elvis?